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LAPD Board Of Rights Hearing

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During Wednesday's hearing, Deputy Police Chief Mark Perez explained the LAPD's Board of Rights hearing process and disciplinary procedures for officers, in response to questions raised in the aftermath of the manhunt for fired Officer Christopher Dorner.

(AP) At least six fired police officers want their disciplinary cases reopened after the Los Angeles Police Department began reinvestigating the termination of a former officer who left a trail of violence to avenge his firing.

Police Protective League President Tyler Izen wouldn't provide details on the former officers who asked to have their cases revisited, but he said the decision by Chief Charlie Beck to reopen Christopher Dorner's case is unprecedented and "has left many of our members in absolute limbo."

"If the department does investigations and they're satisfied with those investigations, then what do they hope to learn from this review?" Izen said. "And if they are not satisfied with those investigations, why are they doing them without being satisfied in the first place?"

Beck reopened Dorner's case and ordered a review of the LAPD disciplinary system after the black ex-cop's online manifesto accused the department of racism and bias in his firing and vowed to get even with officers and their families.

Dorner killed four people, including two police officers, in his rampage before he apparently committed suicide during a fiery shootout in a mountain cabin two weeks ago.

Beck has said the review is being conducted to ensure public confidence. The department has worked hard in recent years to overcome a bad image after multiple investigations into racism, corruption and abuse, including the Rampart Scandal and the 1991 beating of Rodney King.

The review of the allegations and overall disciplinary system will take months, Beck said at a Police Commission meeting on Tuesday. It will look at perceptions of fairness when dealing with race, gender and rank, and will involve input from officers and command staff.

Beck said the department will review other requests for review, but said many are old cases.

Dorner's case brings up a significant issue about what to do when allegations of police misconduct are unfounded, said Commissioner Richard Drooyan. Dorner was dismissed for filing a false report alleging his training officer kicked a mentally disabled man.

"How do you make sure that you are punishing anyone who makes a false allegation or makes a false statement, while also at the same time not discouraging people from bringing potential misconduct to the attention of the department?" Drooyan asked.

Deputy Chief Bob Green, who oversees the South LA area, which is predominantly black and Latino, said the Dorner case has reopened "old wounds of trust" in the community.

About 100 people showed up at a community meeting last week and many spoke of negative experiences with police officers. Officers have reported disturbing public support for Dorner, including the message "Dorner lives" scrawled on walls.

About a dozen protesters at Tuesday's meeting demanded an independent review of Dorner's claims.

"We refuse to be able to continue to be duped that Bonnie can investigate Clyde," said David Dang, an organizer for Occupy The Hood Los Angeles.

The incident has also led officers to question whether they've been punished by an unfair system.

"What we're seeing is that a lot of folks (in the department) who have not been successful are looking for a rationale, now they go to the Dorner incident and say, `Why am I not getting promoted? Is there racism in the LAPD?'" Green said.

The union's legal team is reviewing requests to reopen cases, Izen said. Those could add up. In 2012, there were 48 Board of Rights hearings and 30 resulted in termination, according to Officer Bruce Borihanh.

From Phil Shuman

If you've  never gone to an LAPD Police Commission meeting, you're missing the purest form of Democracy in action.  T They're wide open to the public, usually every Tuesday, in the gorgeous sparkling massive LAPD Administration Building downtown that we all paid for.

The beauty of it is that anyone can sign up to speak on the agenda items.. but really you can speak about whatever is on your mind .  At the front of the room are the five civilian commissioners, appointed by the Mayor to theoretically run the department.   The Chief is also up there, along with the Commissions  ‘' Inspector General'', who , to my knowledge , has never done anything anyone knows about but it sounds important.. there's also a couple of administrative folks.

It's fascinating to watch disgruntled members of the public, stand at the lectern and microphone literally 10 feet away from the Police Chief, and yell at him for his officers being racist brutal thugs who live to terrorize the poor people of the city.   It's clearly a crude exaggeration and indeed an insult to the Chief and to the Commissioners, yet they sit there impassively and patiently and ‘'take it'' from person after person.   As is typically the case with these public comment periods.. it's those w/  complaints that speak.. not those who want to thank the Officers for say.. saving their lives ?   Arresting killers ?  Tracking down criminals.. etc etc

Today brought me there to talk with the head of the Commission, Andrea Ordin, about the disciplinary process in the Dept known as the "Board of Rights ‘' which led to cop killer Chris Dorner's firing.. and whether that system is indeed unfair as Dorner wrote about in his ‘'manifesto""( I don't like that word but that's what we're going with).  Details of that today at 5p and probably again at 10p.  Also I would encourage anyone w/ similar stories of ‘'wrongdoing'' by police to contact me or Robin Sax… emails are on our web site here.. We've gotten a lot of feedback from cops who hate what Dorner did , thankfully, but understand his complaints and say they've lived thru that too.

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